We kick things off by finding out a little bit about Robert's background and how he ended up gravitating towards the UFO subject. He also reveals his unique connection to the infamous Malmstrom AFB UFO sightings of 1967. We find out what made Robert decide to focus on the nuclear aspect of the UFO phenomenon. Robert tells us about the difficulties in finding military whistleblowers and in getting them to open up about their UFO sightings. He also tells of his attempts to get information from the government about these UFO / nuke sightings, via the FOIA.
We discuss Ufology's habit of turning on whistleblowers and we get Robert's take on this unfortunate habit of the field. We discuss how the strange theme of UFOs over nuclear bases is not isolated to just the 1940's, 50's, and '60's, but actually is seemingly still going on today.
Robert then talks about what he considers to be one of the top half dozen cases that he has studied, the 1964 Big Sur sighting. (Robert's CUFOS article on Big Sur (.pdf file)) We attempt to get a ballpark figure on how many UFO / nuclear base incidents that Robert has discovered so far. We also attempt to determine whether UFOs tinkering with the nuclear missiles is abnormal for UFO / nuclear base sightings (i.e. are they usually just observing and rarely get pro-active).
Based on what Robert's witnesses tell him, we find out what the reaction is of the "higher ups" in the chain of command to the UFO sightings over nuclear bases. Given that all evidence seems to support that the UFOs end up disabling the nuclear weapons, binnall inquires as to whether they've ever activated the nukes, instead. We find out if Robert has investigated any other UFO / nuke sightings occurring in other countries, outside of the US.
Getting totally speculative, we ask Robert what he thinks is going on behind these UFO sightings over nuclear bases. We move on to discuss the trend of the US military being pro-active about UFOs over nuclear bases and their attempts to thwart the UFOs via engaging them.
We move on from the UFO / nuke connection to talk about Robert's investigation of the Paul Bennewitz saga, during the mid-1980's. This segues into Robert's investigation of the MJ-12 documents and why he thinks they are fraudulent and who were the parties behind the disinformation. He also talks about how his investigation into MJ-12 ended up creating a firestorm amongst the parties he alleged were behind it all.
Heading towards the end, we find out Robert's take on how the UFO field has evolved over the last 30 years that he's been researching UFOs. We also get his take on the science v. activism debate that seems to be going on in Ufology today.
Wrapping it up, we find out when we can expect to be able to pick up Robert's book "The UFO / Nuke Connection". He also gives us the heads up on upcoming speaking engagements in New England, around late October.
Robert Hastings was born at Sandia Base, NM, May 6, 1950, during a period of high UFO activity at the base, and nearby Kirtland AFB. (That might explain a lot, he says, tongue firmly in cheek.)
His father, SMSgt. Robert E. Hastings was career Air Force, and the Hastings family were stationed at Malmstrom AFB in 1966-67, during one of the peak-periods of UFO activity at nearby ICBM sites. That's what sparked his interest in UFOs.
He received his BFA in Photography at Ohio University in 1972. He almost completed a masters program in Instructional Technology (media directed toward educational ends) but gave that up in 1981 to go out on the college lecture circuit to speak about the UFO/Nukes Connection. Thus far he has spoken at over 500 colleges and universities nationwide.
In 1986-88, he retrained in Electron Microscopy at San Joaquin Delta College in Stockton, CA, and received a certificate in Material Science applications. Between 1988 and 2002, he was employed as a laboratory analyst by Philips Semiconductors in Albuquerque, NM, but continued to lecture at colleges part-time, averaging 25-30 programs per year.
He is currently semi-retired, but still lectures on UFOs.