We kick things off by getting some background on what Exopolitics is and what the goals are behind Exopolitics. We discuss how many people in Exopolitics come from Ufology, but that there is still a faction of anti-exopolitics leaning people in the field and how Michael sees Exopolitics overcoming this factioning and how Exopolitics is markedly different from Ufology. We get Michael's response to the critics of exopolitics, who are jaded by the activism or take issues with some of the whistleblower testimony cited by those in Exopolitics.

Harkening back to some of binnall's complaints about Ufology, we find out if there are specific benchmarks that the Exopolitical movement is aiming for, from both a scholastic and political point of view. We discuss whether or not the present political system is conducive to a pro-UFO candidate or point of view.

We find out where Michael sees Exopolitics fitting into a post-UFO Disclosure world and how it plans to prevent the marginalization and redundancy that many in Ufology expect to happen to the field, post-disclosure. We talk about how "proving UFOs are real" may turn out to be the death knell for Ufology, post-UFO disclosure. Michael explains his problem with framing the "UFO question" on a strictly scientific basis.

From there, we discuss one of the recent papers on exopolitics.org, "False Flag Operations, 911, and the Exopolitical Perspective". Michael explains what motivated him to write this piece, which is somewhat outside the usual UFO realm of exopolitics. He also talks about why the 911 researchers don't want to touch Ufology and we discuss the differences between these two fields of inquiry. We talk about how the freshness of 911 helps to override the ridicule factor that has dogged Ufology for decades.

Then we talk about the recent UFO media flap and what the exopolitical take on this flap is, specifically Michael talks about the Gov. Symington / Phoenix Lights story that exploded on the scene a few weeks ago. We also get his take on the anti-Symington sentiment within Ufology.

After that, we talk about the recent release of UFO information from the French government and Michael explains why he feels ambivalent to the story. We get his exopolitical take on the 2008 presidential election and Hillary Clinton.

Heading towards the end, we discuss the Exopolitics Institute, what it is and what it's goals are. That segues into a discussion about what to do, should there be disclosure, with government officials who are complicite with the UFO cover up. Michael also gives us a preview of the Earth Transformation Conference, to be held in Hawaii this May.

Dr. Michael E. Salla, is a pioneer in the development of exopolitics, the scholarly study of the main actors, institutions and processes associated with an extraterrestrial presence that is not acknowledged to the general public, elected officials or the mass media. His interest in exopolitics evolved out of his investigation of the sources of international conflict and its relationship with the undisclosed extraterrestrial presence. His groundbreaking Exopolitics: Political Implications of the Extraterrestrial Presence (Dandelion Books, 2004) presents the first scholarly framework for understanding the political implications of the extraterrestrial presence.

Dr. Salla is an internationally recognized scholar in international politics, conflict resolution and US foreign policy. He has also authored more than seventy articles, chapters, and book reviews on peace, ethnic conflict and conflict resolution. He has held academic appointments in the School of International Service & the Center for Global Peace, American University, Washington DC (1996-2004); the Department of Political Science, Australian National University, Canberra, Australia (1994-96); and the Elliott School of International Affairs, George Washington University, Washington D.C., (2002). He has a PhD in Government from the University of Queensland, Australia, and an MA in Philosophy from the University of Melbourne, Australia. He has conducted research and fieldwork in the ethnic conflicts in East Timor, Kosovo, Macedonia, and Sri Lanka, and organized peacemaking initiatives involving mid to high level participants from these conflicts.

His website is www.exopolitics.org

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Michael Salla