We start things out by getting some background on Bill Ryan and what gravitated him towards looking into the UFO phenomenon. He goes on to talk reflect on what he thinks caused the furor over the SERPO story. Bill brings the newcomers up to speed on what the SERPO story was, detailing the purported 1975 exchange between an ET race and America.

Beginning chronologically, we look back to November of 2005, when the SERPO story first burst on the scene. Bill discusses the beginnings of the SERPO story on the Victor Martinez newslist and the initial reaction to it from researchers on the list. This leads to the creation of serpo.org and Bill's reasoning behind creating it.

We talk about the early responders to the SERPO story, including two people who introduced key facts into the SERPO story, including the name "SERPO" itself. Bill speculates on how closely these two were related to the initial anonymous posting. Bill has a stunning revelation about what became of the original Anonymous e-mails to Victor Martinez.

Bill clears up the confusion over there being an Anonymous and Anonymous II during that first month of the SERPO story. Bill talks about the psuedonym used by Anonymous, "Sylvester McCoglin", and what it might mean. He tells the story of a mysterious e-mail he received from Los Alamos regarding SERPO.

We move on to discuss the second month of the SERPO story, December of '05, starting with the infamous posting by Anonymous where he said he'd have SERPO pictures soon. We talk about the reaction to that unfulfilled promise and the effect it had on the credibility of the SERPO story. Bill segues from here to tell a story of a meeting with an intelligence officer in March of '06, where he was shown five remarkable photographs. This moves on to a discussion of the pictures that surfaced in April of 2006, purportedly coming from the sources of the SERPO story. binnall throws back to the private meeting that Bill had with the intelligence officer and has Bill flesh out the story some, providing some more details on the meeting.

We talk about the late December / mid-January "changing of the guard", where Victor Martinez was no longer the conduit for Anonymous and, instead, Bill Ryan was. We discuss the circumstances of that shift and what Bill thinks the reasoning behind it was. We also talk about the format change of the SERPO postings (from 3rd person to 1st person) that came along with this change in distribution methods. We discuss these "Team Commander Journal" SERPO postings from early 2006 and how Bill thinks they may have been compiled. We clear up how much interraction Bill Ryan had with Anonymous and the method by which he received the postings that were sent to him.

Bill tackles the January of '06 controversy over Anonymous's IP address matching the same IP address as the infamous Rick Doty. He gives us his perspective on Rick Doty, based on his two meetings with him, and to what extent he thinks Doty was involved with the SERPO story and why. We talk about whether or not Bill was worried about dealing with Rick Doty, based on his history of disinforming those in Ufology.

In late January of 2006, the SERPO postings change the portrayal of the ETs from benign to potentially hostile. We talk about this dramatic change in perspective on the intentions of the ETs and what it may have meant. We discuss the "sundial" diagram that was posted in February of '06 and Bill elaborates on it and the reaction to it from those studying the SERPO story. We also talk about the strange posting of symbols purported to be the EBEN language and if there's been any correlation between this sample and others that have surfaced over the years.

Bill Ryan has a BSc in Mathematics with Physics and Psychology (Bristol University, UK, 1974), and followed this with a brief stint in teaching. For the last 27 years he has been a management consultant, specializing in personal and team development, leadership training and executive coaching. Major long-term clients have included BAe (Systems) Ltd (formerly British Aerospace), Hewlett-Packard, and PricewaterhouseCoopers.

In November 2005 he inaugurated the Project Serpo website, the report of an alleged disclosure, in stages, of a US-alien exchange program claimed to have taken place over 40 years ago. While he had been interested in UFOs, Free Energy research and alternative medicine (he is trained as a kinesiologist) for over thirty years, his first contact with the UFO community at large occurred after establishing the Serpo website.

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