We discuss, in-depth, the "fake Anonymous" story that emerged in April '06, where someone was claiming to be Anonymous and claiming that Bill Ryan was hoaxed. This segues into a discussion on the various factions trying to sink the SERPO story, their claims, and what Bill has to say about the claims. He talks about another strange incident where someone else was implicated with being behind the SERPO story and the fallout from that accusation.

Moving towards the end of the SERPO saga, we talk about the change in SERPO release distribution, back from Bill Ryan to Victor Martinez. We discuss the final SERPO posting, from late August. Bill tells us what images would help prove the SERPO story to be true.

Bill talks about how the SERPO story is indicative of the long-term problems that Ufology has faced, including numerous false leads and promised revelations. He talks about why he thinks none of the "big guns" in Ufology have spoken out about the SERPO story.

Looking back over the last year of the SERPO story, Bill gives us his overarching perspective on the story. Bill extrapolates on the theory that the original Anonymous was a group of three would-be SERPO astronauts and a DIA official. We get Bill's perspective on his role in the SERPO story, his response to those who claim he is a part of a hoax being purpetrated, and regrets he has about the way he's gone about dealing with the SERPO story's critics. He also talks about the positives of his involvement in the SERPO saga and how his life has changed since he got involved in the SERPO story.

Given that it's been three months since the last SERPO post, we ponder whether or not this is the end of the story and what to possibly expect next with regards to SERPO.

Following the SERPO discussion, Kerry Cassidy joins Bill and Tim to discuss Project Camelot.

We start off by getting some background on Kerry Cassidy and how her interest in the esoteric developed. She also tells the story of how she met Bill and how they decided to create Project Camelot. Bill discusses Project Camelot's goals and inspirations. Kerry discusses how people are contacting Project Camelot to discuss their stories and what kind of people PC hopes to find. We discuss the potential for danger, as far as being contacted by people with dubious stories, and how Project Camelot deals with this situation.

Kerry talks about the groundbreaking aspect of Project Camelot, with it being a internet video interviews, and how this medium allows for a different look at esoteric witnesses. We talk about the "Henry Deacon" interview, found at Project Camelot. This dicussion segues into a conversation about why some whistleblowers choose to remain anonymous, when it may be safer to speak out in the open.

The duo talks about the "roundtable" portion of the Project Camelot website and the goals associated with this aspect of their work. Kerry talks about her interview with Gary McKinnon, conducted in the UK. We talk about some of the other interviews found at Project Camelot, including one with futurist Michael St. Clair. Wrapping it up, we find out what's next for Project Camelot in the coming year.

Bill Ryan has a BSc in Mathematics with Physics and Psychology (Bristol University, UK, 1974), and followed this with a brief stint in teaching. For the last 27 years he has been a management consultant, specializing in personal and team development, leadership training and executive coaching. Major long-term clients have included BAe (Systems) Ltd (formerly British Aerospace), Hewlett-Packard, and PricewaterhouseCoopers.

In November 2005 he inaugurated the Project Serpo website, the report of an alleged disclosure, in stages, of a US-alien exchange program claimed to have taken place over 40 years ago. While he had been interested in UFOs, Free Energy research and alternative medicine (he is trained as a kinesiologist) for over thirty years, his first contact with the UFO community at large occurred after establishing the Serpo website.

Kerry Cassidy Bio :

Kerry Lynn Cassidy has a BA in English with graduate work in Sociology, an MBA certificate from the UCLA Anderson Graduate School of Management, and was competitively selected to attend a year of film school at the UCLA Extension Short Fiction Film Program as one of their first "hyphenates": a writer-director-producer. After 19 years in Hollywood working for major studios and independent production companies in production, development and new media, she has written a number of screenplays, acquired the movie rights to the Wingmakers story in 2003, and started work on her own UFO documentary in 2005. At the time of writing (July 2006) she has completed three interviews for Project Camelot, and is planning 21 more over the coming months.

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Bill Ryan and Kerry Cassidy

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